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Post: #61
RE: 2nd luder in here.

It's the H22 head and H23 block, crank and rods are H23, I know the rods need to be rebushed for the H22 type s pistons, but they just told me that I needed to balance the crank, rods and pistons, oohh well, I got nothing to lose if I do it anyways, I just want this thing to be reliable and still use 91 Ocatane gas, compression will be at about 11:5.1

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RE: 2nd luder in here.

what kind of rods are u using?........or more importantly, which bearings are u using? the type s pistons doesnt take the standard h22 bearing.


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RE: 2nd luder in here.

I'm using stock H23 rods, I had to rebush the other ones I had when I had the H22 pistons before this build. The type s pistons are supposed to fit H22 rods so rebushing H23 rods is necessary to make them fit with each other. I'll probably use ACL rod bearing but I heard factory honda ones are just as good, I talked to my friend today and he just needs the parts, he'll probably get it done in like less than a week, but I still haven't bought the header, hopefully next week.

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RE: 2nd luder in here.

^^ sounds good. iono about h23 rods, but there are two kinds of h22 bearings for jdm/ usdm h22a/ a1 and the h22a4. (i found out the hard way) keep me posted.


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RE: 2nd luder in here.

What!!!!!! I thought they were the same for all H22's. I got the Nippon type s pistons from ebay, I think they're jdm, well actually I bought them from some guy at H-T, I'm sure they're jdm cuz usdm don't use type s pistons, where did you hear this?

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^^ i mean this in all levels of respect and i am truthfully not trying to be a dick, but i gotta look out for a fellow luder; nippon isnt jdm. well sorta. not the jdm we know. its not honda oem i guess would be the best way to describe them. there a japanese based compony that copies the specs of actual jdm pistons. (hence the sorta jdm)
--where did i hear what? about the bearings? i didnt hear it anywhere. i found out, literally, from actually fitting them. the main's are different sizes.

- bear with me for lack of comparison. lookey, same bearings but different inner diameters: 50mm
http://shopping.lightningmotorsports.com...ductid=583

and this one: 55mm
http://www.shopasaaracing.com/aclbeseth229.html


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RE: 2nd luder in here.

I understand, well the 50mm or 55mm is the size on the mains on the crank right, correct me if I"m wrong. So I guess when shopping for bearings you look for the ones for the right crank, excuse my ignorance and correct me if I'm wrong, by the way, isn't it cool to own a thread al for ourselves? lol, I wonder why nobody comes up with stupid coments like they do at other forums?

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^^yes. when come time to shop for ur bearings, make sure u know what the size the inner diameter is on your connecting rods. and yes, it is koo to have a thread to ourselves. i love it. i hope noone stupid comes to this forum. we dont need it.


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wow man! nice setup and nice specs. A+PLUS!!!!!!Rock OnThumbUp


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thnx bud. ill have more exact specs after im able to finally go to the dyno. **crosses fingers for the best** lol


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dang nice build

i totally agree with u about how turbo setups need sooo much maintenance its like u spend more time tuning it and worrying about it blowing than u actually do driving it. thats why i also want a N/A engine, i always try to think of things in the long run

but yea, excited to see how it turns out! keep on updating!ThumbUp


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^^will do. thnx. and its not like an n/a motor wont have any maintenance, its just that a boosted car needs so much more attention. im a lil more for longevity now. ive had my fair share of turbod cars. i think im done.


**UPDATE**
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Post: #73
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I'm curious to know what's up. What ecu did you get after all?

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jdm p72. after all that crap. now im finding out that it might not work. gawddamnit. i just want to get the car running right so i can get to the rest of the crap i have to fix. when am i gonna get a break is all im askin???? lol


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the guys at H-T never got back to me, oh well, I just purchased an EL gauge cluster and sparko pedals, I should've saved it for the header, sometimes I get depressed cuz things don't go as planned, I hope I never get the idea of selling the prelude, it's just too much shit I got to take care of that gives me a headache, specially cuz there's only few shops here, ohh my !!!!

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i know that fealing all to well. but im so fargone into the project that it would be a complete waist of money if i had to get rid of it. im always saying to myself "damn, i shouldnt have bought that." lol. im still working through build headaches my damned self. ur preachin to the choir man!! lol now if i could just get past my idle problem, ide be happy.


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RE: 2nd luder in here.

What's wrong with your idle?

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it fluctuates. ive narrowed down to two possible things.
1.) i tested the current and theres NONE going to the ecu. so the ecu is bad or doesnt support my idle enough. i just got a jdm p72. im hoping to gawd that that fixes it because option 2 will devistate my pockets.

2.) because its an h224 that came out of a 5th gen lude, i swapped it without the resistor box. the 5th gen preludes use lower impedence injectors where as every other h22 uses lower. when i did the swap i took the injectors off of my old h22a(low impedense) and put it on the a4 without the resistor box. damnit. i hope its not that cuz that would mean that i have to get a set of injectors.

---i took the p13 thats was previously in the lude out for my buddies p72.(his is tuned to run 1000cc injectors on his turbo eg6 so his basmaps and tunning settings are waaaaaaaay too wrong for my ride) BUT, it atleast idled. ideled horribly, but atleast i know that there is current going to his ecu. wich led me to believe that the p13 is bad. hopefully. i should know by tonight if my car will work or not.

**cross fingers guys n gals. _interlude_ needs all the luck he can get right now.


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Damn, I hope everything turned out ok bro. I feel your pain, well at least the guy that's selling the header that I told you about told me that he'll wait cuz he's still trying to see how much hp he can make with his new setup, so I'm a little relieved. On the other hand, I traded another prelude that I was selling for a 1990300zx, I hope I don't regret it. Wish me luck too.

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ive never known any human being that has regreted owning a 300zx


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Lol, well I just hope the engine is ok cuz the guy said it needed an alternator and a clutch, I want to finish my prelude build and let my brother race me on the 300zx, I have a feeling I'm gonna beat the 300zx, I've never owned a 6 or 8 cylinder car, I've always loved Hondas, I remember the time I beat some Mustang 5.0 with my lude, now talk about respect for imports, lol.

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lol. iono. prelude vs. 300zx? your barking up a pretty big tree. stock for stock a 300zx would eat an h22 alive. now, if your talkin built for built, thats any mans race.


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You think so? I've never actually seen 300zx race till this morning on youtube, there's not that many parts for it on ebay, I couldn't even find performance spark plug wires for the Z. I think my lude has a good chance, plus, the Z isn't turbo or anything. Ohh, I just got some fog lights for the lude, do you know how to install them? They come without the connectors on the wire, switch or relay, I plan to just run them with the head lights, what do you suggest?

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ahh i c. if its not the twin turbo 300zx, than you might have a chance. i was thinking you got the turbod one. lol. ya, curtains for u if it was the turbo one. my mechanic has a 850 hp 300zx. that thing is a frigen monster.

--what kind of fogs are they? are they the genuine jdm ones? either way, there pretty easy to install. pretty straight foward. depending on what kinda laws there are in TX i wouldnt run the fogs straight to the headlights. i know its illegal to have fogs on at all times the headlights are on over here in MD, VA. it would be a good excuse for you to get the jdm fog switch and run it to that.


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p72?

Bricks

man, I never heard of that ECU. Can you explain more in detail?


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^^ i cant tell if your being sarcastic?? r u serious?


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whoa! I did not know that I was supposed to know this stuff lol

well, I know it's from Integra. That's about it. That's why I asked you to tell me more about this ecu. From what I know you are the right person to talk to about this type of stuff.


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lol. its koo. i just couldnt tell if you were being sarcastic.

- the p72 that i have came from a jdm gsr. i had this whole problem solving thing a lil while ago debating wether or not it will work with my setup. there is 3 types of p72's. 1 of them is the jdm, 1 is usdm, and the other is ukdm(?) the euro one.

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RE: 2nd luder in here.

Ones quick question, how do you test relays to see if they're good?

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check the ohm's


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